The update to 1.2 is finished.
The new MCP is changing the method parameters and local variable names, so almost everything had to be merged manually.
Last week I was experimenting with decompiling the latest snapshot (12w08a) and the results were mixed.
Decompiling the snapshot and bringing it to a compilable state is a lot of work. When new fields or methods are added, the obfuscation schema is shifting and has to be manually corrected. This means finding at which place the new elements are inserted, shifting the rest of the elements and decompiling again to see if the fix is working. Some bigger classes like Block or World have received a lot of changes in 1.2 (new world format, new blocks, etc.). Minecraft 1.2 has 959 classes and many of them have to be manually analyzed, fixed and rechecked. Even trivial changes like changing field visibility or adding method parameters require manual intervention.
This all is only to bring the source to compilable state, equivalent to the last decompiled version.
Then the new features have to be named. For this they have to be analyzed, where and how they are used and so on. Sometimes the only way to find what a new field does is to run Minecraft, change it's value in the debugger and see what happens.
The whole process is hard, but doable. As the MCP project shows after every release.
So be patient and if you can, go and donate to the projects which make Minecraft modding possible.
I would just wait until it would be easily updated. People will just have to wait (Or play 1.1) and learn that it doesn't just take a few minutes to update a completely new version of Minecraft, with lots of things changed.
ReplyDeleteI Sent a donation your way. Optifine is a grand thing and it feels good to help out.
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DeleteCan you not see the capes on 1.4.4 only on 1.2?
DeleteOptifine is amazing, you have done a wonderful job. Thank you so much for making it. I would donate, but I can't afford it. Still, thanks so much, I really appreciate your dedication.
ReplyDeleteHoly netherrack, 959 classes in 1.2? At least the vast majority of classes (block types, base data layouts like NBT and MathHelper, stuff like that) hardly ever change, so you just have to compare the layout of the class to the previous one. But still, they do have their work cut out for them, especially with a new file format, new mob AI, new rendering stuff (I've looked at RenderBlocks, and it is a pigsty... no wonder OptiFine takes so long to update even after MCP has.)
ReplyDeleteStill, good luck with the updating. I'm still looking forward to the day when Jeb and co. finally realize Minecraft is becoming increasingly unplayable for lower-end desktops and even mid-end laptops, and that OptiFine is the only fix for that, so they should add it to vanilla or at least add the features it has... and I still swear I've seen laptop-specific, deliberate deoptimization in the vanilla code...
we completely understand. Modding minecraft was already extremely complicated, but having to figure out all the new stuff makes it harder. take your time, optifine is worth the wait :)
ReplyDeleteHow do I DOWNLOAD?
ReplyDeleteYou can't yet.
Deletewhy ?
DeleteCan I punch you in the face corE ?
ReplyDeleteIf you find his address ill fend of the police
DeleteI'll help too.
DeleteLol EpicPowers, I will be tieing his shoelaces together while you draw your fist back to deliver the first & final strike onto his n00bish faise. xD corE I suggest you either 1: reread the post and remove your comment. 2. Wait for the punch to your face. Either way you still suck.... lol
ReplyDeleteI read about the conundrum MC would have with getting optifine integrated properly.
ReplyDeleteIts a shame you can't get a read-only copy of the un-obfuscated sources under a strict NDA, so selected MODs with Mojang approval can see the code and adapt thier mods to suit.
Its just silly how they obfuscate it and then their entire mod ecosystem waits for somebody to simply reverse the obfuscation ....
I mean really, what are they achieving now by such extreme obfuscation?
I think it's stupid as well, but Minecraft is a very large game. Obfuscation is done to prevent people from fully distributing their game.
DeleteThat doesn't make sense,
Delete1. The binaries ( minecraft.jar ) are easily obtainable, so obfuscationss not helping that problem.
2. The code is now reverse engineered , rendering the source code in a usable form for whatever purposes to whoever wants it do build whatever they want with it, so obfuscation only *delays* that.
So how exactly does obfuscation "prevent people from fully distributing their game" ?
It at very best delays the time from release to being "pirated" by about a week or so.
You have to make a reasonable effort to protect your intellectual property to have protection under the law. Having a copyright or trademark alone isn't enough to have protection under the law. Obfuscation makes it clear that the code is not freely available for any use...it is a reasonable effort at protecting the code. Obfuscation itself doesn't protect the code, but what the obfuscation means helps to protect the code legally.
DeleteIt could also be that Mojang considers the development of Minecraft as a hard difficulty 'Survival' mode, and you have to mine out the information you need rather than spawn any bit of code you want. Who knows.
Perhaps, but they've taken the extreme end of the stick and used obfuscation that is impractical.
DeleteA few things would make the situation much better.
1. Have an obfuscation scheme that doesn't randomly reassign every classes name every time the code changes, but uses the same random tokens every time. ( So that the reverse engineering process is not difficult for pointlessessness sake )
2. Obfuscating method names, but not classnames ( still offering protection of the implementation details )
3. Only obfuscating method bodies, not method/class names.
Optifine makes my MC experience 10x better. I run my own server and the lag can get kind of hectic. With optifine, I can reduce my lag and tend to my members' needs more efficiently. Thank you for all of your hard work. And don't worry about taking your time- Optifine is well worth the wait. I'll be donating to you shortly. :)
ReplyDelete-Devon Jade
Can't wait for optifine for 1.2!!!!!! I LOVE OPTIFINE!! WILL DONATE
ReplyDeleteSuch a difference before and after. Hurry before I run out of other things to do! D:
ReplyDeletePatience. Updating a mod takes a lot of work.
DeleteImagine minecraft without this.....even in 1.2 :( Hope you update it soon.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait till this is released!! Take your time, I can defintely wait for something that will help in the long run!!
ReplyDeleteI love optifine but when you make a new optifine and sense light levels are client side not server side and all lighting is darker then it was in 1.8 in caves and underwater even with brightness all the way up maybe you can make a cave and water brightener. Just a thought.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone else take your time, when optifine for 1.2 is realeased it will be epic and I am happy to wait untill the end of April for it to come out so take you time and fix all the bugs whatever you need to do. I agree it is doable hard but doable and I sugest you relax your way through and not think about the people that rush you think about the others who support you RandomGuy_13, Jade, PwnyBrony32, sparkawe, PS3CH4MP, everyone else and me. Good luck. :D
ReplyDeleteCan you specify any timeframe for release?
ReplyDeletePatience. Updating a mod takes a lot of work.
DeleteYou could try the Pre - Release Version of MCP http://www.mediafire.com/?emz17agmzr3ed7e :)
ReplyDeleteRead the whole post! He said he's working on it, and has been for a while
DeleteHey. I love your plugin. I have so much lag without it, so please, update ASAP. MCP is out. Thanks so much.
ReplyDeleteMCP is updated as i bet you know
ReplyDeletehell i love everything about this mod! even the Fast debug info screen!
ReplyDeleteI usually don't use this mod, as I don't think it visually improves Minecraft all too much. As soon as I started a new world in 1.2.3, with my render distance set to Far, it crashed my game. When i started an old world, with my settings that I had on 1.1, I got about 15 fps out of it. Really looking forward to seeing how OptiFine Light 1.2.3 works for me when it comes out :)
ReplyDeleteI dont use HD textures anyway. If I have MCpatcher HD enabled, and Optifine Light, can I use HD textures? Doesn't really matter anyway, because the default 16x texture size is fine for me.
Looking forward to seeing it all work out!
lol, optifine improves the graphic so much it made me kinda sad that i played so long without it. Try to turn on the AA and AF to x16.
Deletehope it will be updated next week i cant play mc with only 5 to 3 fps for normal and i can only play in small render distance :(
ReplyDeleteGREAT JOB WITH THE MODDING! *DIAMONDS FOR U !* (sry for the caps ;P )
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ReplyDeleteAnyone sensible understands why it takes so long and the effort that needs to be put in and is willing to wait for a nice smooth minecraft instead of the lagfest most of us have.
ReplyDeleteSaying that though, I really miss bettergrass and HD textures when new updates come out and usually jump over to mcpatcher for a few days while optifine is updated.
Anyone else really wish there was an Optifine Cosmetic which just had the simple things in that don't need MCP to be updated?
Love your work man. Take all the time you need, because when it comes out, it's going to be worth it. Looking forward to the release! :)
ReplyDeleteThrew a Donation at OF...
ReplyDeleteWill do so next month...
May do so every month ^_^
OF are an important and mostly needed mod...
I would say that HDPather should (almost) be discontinued due to OF already granting same features plus soooo much more!
Well, time for me to return to Hexen 1 and kill some monsters and down right enjoy an old game, and maybe i'll play... DN3DAE or SS1 after... hmm....
Please fix the lightning-block-bug, when 256/512px Texture-packs are in use, because I can't decide, what to take: Shadermod or the awesome texturepack!
ReplyDeleteI don't mine Optifine taking awhile to update as long as I get more than the current 8 ( literally ) FPS.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to donate in a bit as well!
Great mod.
Mojang should have you make Minecraft run good without Optifine, they should pay you though.
Did you have ideia of when the optifine for 1.2 will launch?
ReplyDeleteOBS:I'm brazilian.
WTF? Still at 40% ? (BTW I'm not rushin' ya I'm just surprised)
ReplyDeletei dont even need optifine for my computer i get 80-100 fps on average but i still use it to make sure i get the most out of minecraft and remove any chance of a lag spike and the little features this mod comes with is awesome nice work guys
ReplyDeleteDonated. Keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteThis really is the best mod in existence for Minecraft, donated.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait for the update, keep it up.
OMG 90%
ReplyDelete^ I know right, it was at 80% earlier today.
ReplyDeleteIt almost seems as if the donations make sp614x work faster... quickly, more people donate!
It's normal. When he gets money (he deserves it) he has a motivation to work. :)
DeleteWhen update will be realese? I can't wait!
ReplyDeleteWhen it's done? Hopefully today, if not probably tomorrow.
DeleteDude, if its 90% done cant u still release like u did with 1.1?
ReplyDeleteI respect the fact that u are still working on it, but i hate lagging :| =\
Dude, your mod is my key to play any version of Minecraft playable on my PC! :D
ReplyDelete90% - excellent! Waiting. :)
Plus, Mojang should make u work for them, and make u put this code into minecraft, and this way, we both win, (we dont have to download the mod)(and we dont need to wait to update) and u also earn money :DDDDD
ReplyDeleteim waiting i get so much lag without optifine :( and i try to run a personal server sometimes for me and my friends to play on and i lag TONS but with optifine i can play on short rendering ill wait for every update and deal with the lag untill then i hope mod API will come soon
ReplyDelete98% :D
ReplyDeleteIs it possible to have something like http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/981282-123-white-text-fix/
ReplyDeleteimplemented in optifine seeing as it is something that happens on low end graphics cards that do not support OpenGL 1.4? (make sure you ask the author first :b)
If minecraftforum.net is overloaded, you can download it just here :P
ReplyDeletehttp://optifine.net/adload.php?f=OptiFine_1.2.3_HD_A.zip
also if possible could you do anything about the lighting checks in the nether?
ReplyDeleteI get like 200 a minute and it slows me down considerably (from 30fps to 0fps)
98% tá quase
ReplyDeleteFull F5 na page kkk'
ReplyDeleteEspectativa *-*
The Fast Debug Info doesnt work. The lagometer still shows. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteCan't donate just at the moment, but did want to express gratitude for the mod and the hard work.
ReplyDeleteIt greatly increases my enjoyment of the game and allows me record LP's which otherwise wouldn't be possible.
Thanks so much.
This is great news. Please hurry! Using MCPathcher with Misa is painful at best.
ReplyDeleteYay!!! 99% AWESOME!
ReplyDeleteThis is the site the most visited about me ! i'm so impatient !
ReplyDeleteMy Minecraft LIVES on this mod :) Keep up the great work man :) I have been anticipating the update, so i can run my server with much less lag. Seriously though, you are doing a great job. Creating the mod itslef must be hard, but updating when minecraft has changed alot? Must take ages, and you are speeding along!
ReplyDelete99.5%? Next will be 99.6, 99.7, 99.8, 99.9, 99.91...
ReplyDeleteJust joking. Nice to see that mod is near to finish. :D
someone post an ip so i can connect to them ( i need to test something assuming you have optifine snapshot on)
ReplyDelete"Them" means what?
DeleteAnd the 1.2.3 version??
ReplyDeleteor that will be compatible?
Come on... 99.5%? You have to be kidding!!!
ReplyDeleteHavent used optifine yet but heard great things about it!!! Cant wait until your done with 1.2.3!! keep up the good work!!!
ReplyDeleteGosh i cant wait! the over-world is fine, but the nether is laggy! i love your mod and anyone who is mad about this mod not being out yet can suck it. These last decimal percentages will be the hardest of my wait. Keep up the amazing work!
ReplyDeleteBtw, i aint mad
DeleteA person with your talents should be hired by Mojang to code the graphics anyhow--thought about possibly pursuing that angle?
ReplyDeleteI donated for Optifine to show support and for the awesome cape. Mc: Badel89
ReplyDeleteWhere can i download it ?
ReplyDeleteYou can download it here : http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-123-optifine-hd-b-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and-more/
DeleteDoes this need to be updated for 1.2.4?
ReplyDeleteYes it does.
DeleteSpecified date for 1.2.4?
ReplyDeletewhen will 1.2.4 be out?
ReplyDeleteand can we have a preview of it :DDD
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT 1.2.4 AND CHECK THE FORUM POST
ReplyDeleteI want Optfine 1.2.4!
ReplyDeletewow people! first if you need this mod so badly when you see there is an update realize that none of the mods will work right if you update right away. you can wait a week to update if you have to. secondly instead of just whining about it why don't you toss them a few dollars each time they have to update to let them know you appreciate their hard work. Ok I am done, now where is that donate button?
ReplyDeletecause we are eager for the new features and we cant join our friends in multiplayer
ReplyDeleteSorry for stupid question, but can I use Optfine 1.2.3 with Minecraft 1.2.4? What if I try?
ReplyDeleteYou can try, but Minecraft will crash.
DeleteNVM. Minecraft 1.2.3. was unplayable on my Windows 7 64-bit, it couldn't recognize Java 64-bit installed. Minecraft 1.2.4. with OptiFine 1.2.4. preview works just fine.
Delete99%.... THIS... IS.... OPTIFINE!!!!!!! Glad to See that optifine is really progressing! I wish I could donate but I can't.. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteare you from New Zealand
ReplyDeletethe url is .co.nz
i donated for optifine which is AMAZING! and for the epic cape which is awesome i have some questions bout the cape though, how long till i get it and can only ppl with optifine see it and do i actually need optifine to have/see the cape myself?
ReplyDeletelike if i didnt have optifine would i still have the cape on
No you dont need optifine to see the cape
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ReplyDeleteNice blog dude, I love minecraft and you have made such a nice and informative blog and discussions...
ReplyDeleteInstall Minecraft Mods
Last time I saw my fps without using Optifine in Tiny as render distance was only 1~2 fps (s**t slow computer), when I installed Optifine, at Far it was over 20 fps! Great job.
ReplyDeleteCan you maybe bring far view back? Cos that would help.
ReplyDeleteI donated but I never got the cape even though i typed in my IGN. Can anyone help?
ReplyDeletedid it eventualy come??? im waiting
DeleteI want to donate to the cause, but I really don't want paypal to have my card info (because fuck paypal). What can I do to help besides watching ads?
ReplyDeleteHi sp614x. I think I found a bug in Optifine. When I have Vsync Enabled, it forgets Vsync if I go fullscreen or back again. Then it will use Max fps, it seems. So I have to go into options and click through until I have Vsync enabled again, then it works until the next time I press F11.
ReplyDeleteMaybe this was reported before, I didn't feel like reading 1000+ pages :)
(copied from minecraft forum, since I don't know if you can keep up with all those posts there. Thanks for making Optifine and MagicLauncher!)
Ive donated but no cape???? i used paypal
ReplyDeletedid u ever get your cape
Deleteheres the website for Minecraft Optifine at http://www.minecraftoptifine.com
ReplyDeletevery interested in getting this cape for my son, once the donation is made how and where do we get this awesome cape
ReplyDeletecan we only see the capes on 1.2 not the latest 1.4.4?
ReplyDeleteThough about this. how much of a hassle would it be to you. to implemt user uploaded capes?
ReplyDeleteor get toghether with one of the cape mods outthere where people can upload thair own cape, or even get animated capes?.
Think your plugin users would rise if you implented one of these features..
:)
I had a cape but today it disappeared and I don't know how to get it back unless the donation runs out. Can someone tell me whats happening? I tried to customize it but it wouldn't let me.
ReplyDeletecan I translate version 1.5 to the Traditional Chinese?
ReplyDeleteA technical question - is it feasible for Optifine to disable the use of display lists?
ReplyDeleteThe reason I ask is that I'm interested in porting Minecraft to ES 2.0 (Android, iOS etc)
using the Regal emulation support, but display lists are one area that Regal doesn't
support yet. https://github.com/p3/regal